Sen. Rand Paul Appears on America's Newsroom- June 1, 2015

this in a big way senator rand Paul's remember the homeland security committee in two thousand sixteen presidential candidate his new book is called taking

a stand and he's now with us live in Washington senator good morning but a long night for your appreciate you coming back to America's newsroom good morning what

did you accomplish well you know the court has said that this book collection of all of our phone records is illegal from

here on out beginning this week the government will not collect your your phone records in bulk so I think that's a huge victory okay

what you heard people like general Hayden just a moment ago who had a lot to say without with Chris why he

you putting Americans in danger center well here's the thing is I actually want more collection of

we're not spending enough time actually following the potential jihadists in our country the FBI said just this week they don't have enough how they

I would do is I will quit spending billions and billions of dollars collecting the records of innocent American this

is a big rebuke to the present the president has been committing an illegal program the court told him to stop he wouldn't stop this

moss and this is a big victory for the American well so you think this is a question of manpower that it that

constitutional war the difference is you put someone's name on as opposed to having a generalized warrant that collects everyone's record this

is what we fought the American revolution over John Adams it was the spark that led to the American revolution was that we were opposed just

to generalized warrant scooping up everyone's record we wanted suspicion to be individualized no

more the government is no longer going to collect all of our records all the time so this is a big rebuke to the president the president's now going after a guy the laws are now let's dig

a little deeper I think it was seven o'clock eastern time last night when you said this calm people here in

I think secretly want there to be an attack on the United States to whom are you referring I think sometimes in the heat of battle hyperbole can get the better of anyone and that may be in the problem there the

point I was trying to make is that I think people do use fear to try to get us to give up our liberties and

this was a whole thing that Benjamin Franklin debated whether or not we should trade our liberty for security and sometimes they

really hasn't provide that %HESITATION and I think we've already heard that argument either express that as well so to have others but do you take back that statement you just said when I

think some secretly want there to be an attack and I stay so they can blame I think sometimes are going

after people's motives and and impugning people's motives is a mistake and in the heat of battle I think sometimes are probably can get the better of all of I

think the general idea that people use fear and I think they do use fear they act as if we can't collect any record they

were using fear yesterday with the Boston bomber saying we needed the patriot act to look his phone record it's completely untrue the

constitution allows for war and we could have easily gotten a record or a warrant to look at that Boston

bombers records in fact I want more of that not less so I think we need to have an intelligent debate and sometime %HESITATION